Andy Ruiz Jr is not a natural full weight?

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  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Andy Ruiz's height is 5 feet 11 inches which indicates that he is not big enough to fight in full weight he is overweight 60 pounds or so
     
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  2. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to this logic Mike Tyson is a middleweight as well.
     
  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He should be a LHW, or SMW. Now all he has to do is lay off the chimichangas and Popeyes chicken sandwiches for a couple years and he will be ready for a fight with Canelo.
     
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  4. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty sure that last June he knocked the crap out of an undefeated, unified champion at heavyweight. Pretty sure a light heavyweight who’s carrying just a bunch of extra lard isn’t going to accomplish that.
     
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no such thing as height class, his height is irrelevant. His body structure, mass and weight is what matters. Even if he got rid of the belly, he'd still be a HW.
     
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has a watermelon sized head. He is a genuine heavyweight.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    His shoulders are really broad looks like a wall from behind

    Could defo loses about 50 pounds though
     
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  8. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson was roided to the max. 220lbs at 5'10 with abs showing.

    Those are 1970s Mr Olympia stats and we know those guys injected everything under the sun.
     
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  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He’s a fat cruiserweight, and that’s being generous. He looked like he at least had 100 lbs of extra fat to get rid of in his last outing.
     
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  10. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Tyson was on peds imo from a very young age, no way 220 was his natural weight, hes lighter now than when prime ??People think its his vegan diet that he doesn't even bother with, just like his Muslim conversion..If he was a natural 220 fighter he be weighing in the 250's imo after retiring, he actually looks smaller
     
  11. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    240-250 would be ideal, hes naturally a big heavy boned guy forget his height
     
  12. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    Not being funny, but why would you want to look like that in front of your kids and millions of people watching? Even if it made you a decent boxer, its the reason no one took him seriously till Joshua. Its the reason why even after he beat Joshua the reporters and news outlets reduced him to a cute lovable boxer who was inevitably going to lose to Wilder/Fury, not a champion in his own right but a source of embarrassment for Joshua.
     
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  13. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Gluttony.
     
  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Put it this way, Dave Allen is a small chubbed up HW. Dave Allen saw Ruiz in person and was surprised how small his frame was, smaller than him. Without drugs or fat, you can only be so naturally big at a given height. Height and weight are not directly proportional but they are strongly related, obviously.

    The other clue Ruiz is not a natural HW is the fact he's a known slacker as far as training goes. You cannot put or maintain massive muscle bulk if you are not a gym rat. Therefore his bulk is mainly fat.

    People don't like this because it makes the KO of Joshua even worse. But realistically we should expect boxers above a certain weight to be capable of hurting any man if they land on the button. Having said that, Joshua got KO'd by a fat SMW, shame on him. Remember when people were going after Fury for being dropped by Cunningham, who had no bodyfat at 210lbs, legit over 6ft. Cunningham is bigger than Ruiz, a legit cruiser and small HW (only by modern standards).
     
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  15. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    No he's not a big boned or muscular guy. He has skinny legs for one. His gut is huge and he has tig ol bitties.

    Even in the first fight he was at least 40-50kg overweight. He's not a 1990s George Foreman who had a lot of muscle mass as well as fat. He's not even like the heavyweight version of James Toney.

    Without the fat he'd be less than 200lbs, more like 180-190lbs.