Are numbers for reach/height fudged?

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  1. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I frequently use tale of the tape/boxrec to figure out how tall/reach certain fighters have. I have noticed though the numbers seem to vary greatly for many fighters.

    I have seen Terrence Crawford being listed as low as 70 and as high as 73...

    Gary Russell as low as 61 and as high as 64...

    SO many others but those are two recently that I noticed...

    Is it not really taken seriously, the measuring itself? Ok, well its 70.25, lets just call it 71, eh? Well it will make you look like more of a specimen if we add a few inches so lets call it 74!

    Do they measure differently with different methods? Do some guys take a soft measuring tape and just go along the back and others put their back against the wall, mark their fingers and then measure that distance? it could cause a few inches in difference....


    My best guess is they want guys to seem more intimidating or want to make the fight look closer on paper so casuals thinking of watching will be like "Oh wow, these guys are identical! Great fight!"
     
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  2. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are supposed to measure knuckle to knuckle for wingspan and armpit to knuckle for reach. Two people should be holding the tape when measuring a fighter.
     
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  3. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Height is weird simply because of posture. However, a guy like Paul Williams was definitely not 6'1", he was realistically around 6'3" but fudged his height to his advantage. There are plenty of times where you see guys in a face-off, shoeless, listed at the same height, but one guy is clearly an inch or two taller.

    For instance, Haye is listed at 6'3" and Wlad 6'6", but Wlad looks like he is a good 5-6 inches taller than Haye.
     
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  4. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always thought reach was fingertip to fingertip? The way you are saying though makes much more sense as if you had long fingers it could throw it off as much as an inch or so...
     
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  5. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Height definitely
     
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  6. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is fingertip to fingertip. The dudes talking out of his ass.
     
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  7. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know which way is correct but measuring to the knuckle would make sense seeing as your fist is clenched when in a glove. If the measurement was given to the fingertip it would be giving you an extra 2/3 inches reach that you don't have.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No he isn't; he is describing two different things. Wingspan and reach, both of which are stats used for boxers' arm length. (but never both, you see either or the other)
     
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  9. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's called wingspan for a reason, plus most boxers wingspan is equal to their height, therefore so is their reach.

    Check this vid out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuX7FlddCRg&safe=active

    around 0:40ish
     
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  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston's 84 inch reach and 15 inch fists always seemed like bogus stats. His reach even looked shorter than Clay's when he fought him. His fists didn't look nearly large enough to be 15 inches. For point of reference, the circus giant Primo Carnera had 14 inch fists. No way Liston's fists were bigger than Carnera's.
     
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  11. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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  12. Scorpion

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    Wingspan is fingertip to fingertip, arm length is measured from armpit to end of the fist. Not fist to fist lol
     
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  13. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Measuring fingertip to fingertip for a boxers reach is stupid though.
     
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  14. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I sorta agree but thats the way its done. I never heard of fist to fist prior to this thread.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nobody said fist to fist.


    You misread Kratos in the first place.

    Wingspan measurements include both arms plus the back, finger to finger outstretched.

    Reach (though confusingly some use that word interchangeably with the Wingspan definition above) is armpit to knuckles of balled fist on just one arm.
     
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