Canelo v Golovkin: Was it actually a robbery?

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  1. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i know i'm opening up the can of worms again, but seeing as i was one of the people who was on this forum saying it was a robbery (i believe what i said was something along the lines of "it was a close fight but when you have this much of a majority of fans, pundits, coaches, boxers all scoring the fight for GGG, it becomes a robbery" but my mindset, was that it was definitely a robbery), i thought i'd make this post. Now, with all the hysteria from the first fight pretty much died down now, i thought i'd re-score it. With Canelos failed test, i thought i'd be more biased against Canelo, however, my eyes told me a different story.

    1st Scoring (scoring it live): 117-111 GGG
    RD1: GGG
    RD2: Canelo
    RD3: Canelo
    RD4-11: Golovkin
    RD12: Canelo

    2nd Scoring (day after the fight): 116-112 Golovkin
    Don't have my scorecard for that, but i believe i changed 1 of the first 3 rounds to Canelo

    3rd Scoring (last night): 115-113 Canelo
    RD1-3: Canelo
    RD4-5: GGG
    RD6: Canelo
    RD7-9: GGG
    RD10-12: Canelo

    Canelo was gassing badly in the backend of the fight, but had enough in the locker to land a lot of clean combinations in the first half of the rounds and the last 30 seconds. Then Golovkin would be relentlessly hunting him down, being the aggressor but it wasn't effective enough for me upon viewing it last night. he'd land here and there, but not enough to counteract what Canelo hd done in the round.

    For me, no robbery, just a close fight. although, i could score it tomorrow and get something different.
     
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  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Yes it was a robbery. We may all have our varying opinions, mine is he won as is most people but people like shadow are convinced it was the other way round and ask him to break it down he will do and he will do it very well. So there is legitimate arguments for all 3 outcomes, i suppose.

    But I call it a robbery cuz Golovkin had to get the ko to win, atleast 2 judges were paid off. It just happened to be a close fight. If it had of been a 12 round beatdown by Golovkin we would of still had a draw.
     
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  4. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, i see where you're coming from, but that last bit is based mainly on presumption, no matter how likely it is to be true. Based on what was seen in the fight, it could go either way, and if that's the case, i feel as though it isn't necessarily a robbery. but, as you say "we all have varying opinions"
     
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  5. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Clenelo was
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    w/ a 118-110 score card. So yeah, it was a robbery.
     
  6. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This has been beaten to death. The only possible rounds Canelo won were 1-3 and 10-12, period. You scored round 6 for Canelo which was very clearly a Golovkin round. 114-114 is a possible score, but not a good one. How anyone could score more than 6 rounds for Canelo is beyond me. It was a bad decision for sure. Clear corruption.
     
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  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I'm not sure robbery is the right word but it was certainly the wrong decision, IMO.

    If the 3 cards were all 118-110 Canelo, then that's a robbery for example.
     
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  8. Son Peyote

    Son Peyote ★★★★★★★★ Full Member

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    I'm the biggest GGG fan there is and I genuinely dislike Canelo & GBP.

    That said, Canelo clearly won that fight. I'm also convinced the majority of """boxing fans""" have no idea how to watch fights.

    Canelo landed the bigger straights and played matador to Gennady all night. Canelo made GGG miss all his big shots, I don't think GGG's back hand cleanly touched Canelo more than twice. Lukewarm jabs are not enough to beat better footwork and shot selection.

    Make no mistake, Canelo was clearly on something... he had put on more lean muscle mass than ever and was faster too.

    I hope we get the rematch this year.
     
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  9. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a huge robbery, end of fight poll was 94% to 6% in Golovkins favor, so yeah it was a colossal robbery
     
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  10. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It was quite cagey & both neutralized each others best assets in a way but it was clear GGG won a competitive bout, 115-113 was my score. ...

    That being said, Canelo had to cheat to make it so! Which tells me everything about how a clean Canelo would do!
     
  11. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Give up. GGG won that fight!
     
  12. Mirko

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    canelo won 1-3 (with rnd1 actually being a toss up round) and 12th, which was again evened out by the end of it. that's it. Too many people giving rounds to fighters who go backward and do nothing. In order to win rounds like that you have to fight like Mayweather. You won't see him not answering attacks from the opponent and get jabbed all night. If you compare his activity in the GGG fight to Floyd's fights, you would see why he lost most of the rounds, including 2 of the last 3. And that brings me to another error people tend to make: so called comparative rounds, when a fighter is being awarded a round because he does better than in the previous rounds but is still outlanded and loses territory. Can't score rounds and fights like that. As a matter of fact, canelo got hammered in the last 3 rounds more than he did in the earlier rounds. Canelo lost, because he broke down after round 3. If he kept it the way he began, he would have won, but didn't.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It was fair.

    Two things that are not scoring criteria:
    1. Looking tired
    2. Walking forward

    Fans have been scoring against boxers looking tired since the beginning of time.
     
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  14. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Is that Povetkin's head in your avatar?
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Yes