Closest stylical boxer to Fitzsimmons

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who would you call the closest boxer to Fitzsimmons in terms of style - stance, body attacks, defense and strategy? It can be a fighter from any era.

    For those who are less familiar with Fitz:

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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He was a very unorthadox fighter.
     
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    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    He had a very unique unorthodox style, held his hands kind of low like James Toney but pulled back alittle more, not a busy punch output but hit like a ton of bricks, I can honestly say I haven’t seen anyone fight like him, but that could be because his style would be ill suited for any generation that followed...
     
  5. he grant

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    Don Donphrey was announcing a Bob Foster title bout in the late 1960’s and during it he said old timer’s then said Fostervwascsaid to be similar in style with Bob Fitzsimmons.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Apparently Gans studied him, but he looks alot more 'fundamental' on film.
     
  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foster is quite different though and I'm not sure he's as terrific body puncher.

    Someone who is much different but similar at the same time is Ken Norton. He didn't have Fitz power and was much bigger but both relied on similar tactics on offense and defense in my opinion.
     
  8. 70sFan865

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    How about Tony Canzonieri? Similar defensive style and ultimate counter puncher. Of course he didn't have Fitz power.
     
  9. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hate to say it, but, maybe Prince Naseem Hamed?
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've said it in other threads.

    Deontay Wilder reminds me of Bob Fitzsimmons. I used to think Wilder reminded me of Max Baer. But for all the WINDMILL talk, Wilder does throw some brutal straight shots.

    Fitz kept his distance. He closed fast. He was often awkward when he attacked, but he was generally effective. Threw his arms out to block when an opponent attacked. Despite his thin legs, he had great power and knocked out most people he fought. Wilder doesn't lean back on the back foot as much. Other than that, they're pretty similar.

    Wilder is Fitz if Fitz was 6'7" and about 50 pounds heavier.
     
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  11. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When watching Fitz's shuffling footwork against Corbett, I see similarities to Dempsey's footwork. They both move forward with a crab-style walk which allows them to put extra leverage in their punches, especially the left hook. Other fighters who did this are Stanley Ketchel, Mike Gibbons, Billy Petrolle, Al Hostak. It's quite different than the orthodox left foot forward style used in the classic stand-up stance employed by most right-handed boxers. Obviously, Fitz didn't use a crouching style like Dempsey, but the footwork was similar, IMO.
     
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  12. 70sFan865

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    Wilder doesn't attack the body nearly enough, he also has half of defensive tricks Bob had. All Wilder does is trying to find his opponent chin with his overhand right. Fitz was much more varied with his attacks. Their stances is not similar either.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Defensive tricks? You mean backing up and holding his arms out? Wilder does that, too.

    For the most part, Fitz avoided shots by staying on the outside - out of punching range. That's what Wilder does. It worked because Fitz closed fast from the outside, same as Wilder.

    Fitz often closed/attacked throwing hooks and rights instead of jabs, same as Wilder.

    Attack the body? Was Fitz a huge body puncher because he landed one liver shot on Corbett that had him unable to stand up for 10 or 12 seconds? Fitz was a headhunter like everyone back then. Wilder is, too.

    Fitz had an awkward style. So does Wilder. But they are quite similar in many ways, too.

    Nobody leans on their backfoot all the time. Norton drug his. That's not the same.

    It was a flaw in Fitz's game, but most vast majority of guys Fitz fought were super awkward themselves so it didn't hurt him much.

    I'm glad Wilder doesn't do lean on his back foot, although people have complained about how unskilled he is on the occasions when he has.
     
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  14. 70sFan865

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    Along with slipping and catching punches with his elbows. Wilder is much simpler defensive fighter.

    He was a huge body puncher because he knocked out dozens of fighters with his body punches. He did the same to Ruhlin, he hurt Sharkey body badly too. Fitzsimmons was possibly the best body puncher ever, Wilder's body punching doesn't exist. He was the opposite of a headhunter, especially at HW.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Just like all the guys Norton koed with body shots?

    Wilder is more like Fitzsimmons than Norton.

    Frankly, I don't see a single resemblance in styles between Norton and Fitzsimmons. Norton based everything off the jab to try to get inside, where he preferred to be. Fitz didn't jab at all. And he was more attack and then get out, like Wilder.

    And dragging your back foot is the opposite of leaning back on your trailing foot.

    Practically no one has copied Fitz. But I see a lot of Fitz in Wilder's style.

    Norton's style is closer to Joe Frazier than Bob Fitzsimmons.
     
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