Hatman Strikes Back criticised Billy Nelson

He somehow motivated and managed to get Ricky Burns through 12 rounds with Beltran after breaking his jaw looking in severe pain but Burns got a draw and retained his title. The end justified the means as many a trainer would have thrown in the towel mid way through the fight.

With Bakole v Hunter, I actually thought Hunter was only 1-2 punches away from being stopped in that fight more than once and his trainer must have knew it as well.

Hard to judge what is really going on at times and many also jumped on Dubois when he quit v Joyce even though he had a bad eye injury.

You get Lebedev v Jones where even the doctor allowed Denis him to continue with what was possible the worst eye injury and swollen head seen in the ring.

Billy probably seen the win in sight but we don't know the full story.

 

I'd be very interested in what he has to say about that.

 

Dubois' corner was horrendously bad. Sod all instructions and just asking how much he wanted it.

His corner should have pulled him out even though he was ahead on the cards, he wanted out.

 

Yes 100%

If the desire to carry on isn't there through injury or other deep lying problems, then you pull him out straight away.

 

What about if there's no injury or deep underlying problems and it's a fighter who's wanting to quit. Plain and simple quit. Do you pull him out or push him back out to overcome his fears.

 

The trainer essentially woks for the fighter so should do as he says

 

Exactly!

If the focus isn't fully there and you send him out regardless, then you're risking your fighter's life. We can't all be Deontay Wilder, simply no quit in that man. Huge difference between wanting to carry after being buzzed, yet still having that fighting instinct intact, and not fancying it anymore.

Give your fighter grief afterwards away from the camera if you must, but if he wants out you pull him out.

 

I like Billy, it's a shame he got banned from Twitter, he always took time to interact with boxing fans and wind up that little weasel Sam Jones.

However, watching the Hunter fight from my armchair I got the impression he was desperately trying to save face rather than looking out for his fighter, save the embarrassment of losing/his fighter quitting after months and months of hyping up Bakole, saying he could beat any heavyweight on the planet etc. etc.

 

watching the fight at the time I thought Billy was right to keep Bakole in there.He looked like he’d mentally chucked it rather than being seriously hurt or injured.Was a ballsy decision that could’ve backfired but the alternative was Bakole getting pelters for quitting.Billy and Martin have done well subsequently so fair play to both.

 

Exactly how I saw it.

Bad motivation however I don't have a problem with it.

I did think there was a chance that he had seen Bakole being lazy and trying to quit before in training. If you have a fighter that quits easy, you have to try push him through the initial quitting because he will respond to that. I don't really mind what he did. Bakole can always just refuse to fight like this guy.

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