How many of Mike Tyson’s fights were fixed?

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mike himself claimed last year on a podcast that some of his fights were fixed, that the referee was in on it but the opponent wasn’t.

    He doesn’t mention any specific fights except to then say the Buster Douglas fight was fixed in Buster’s favor (apparently referring to the long count).

    Of course the Seldon fight looked fishy, as in a dive — not like the referee had anything to do with it but maybe Bruce was ‘incentivized’ to find a soft spot?

    And of course there are some fights where Mike could have been DQ’d — I think he got like six warnings in the first few rounds of the second Ruddock fight without any deductions? Something like that. And of course he tried to break Botha’s arm and someone else’s, he often threw forearms and elbows (he even lanced a forearm shiv to the face of Michael Spinks without warning).

    So is Mike right? I mean, he should know. If so, which fights do you suspect were already in the bag before the bell? How far back does it go?

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  2. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If I had to guess, I would say the Etienne fight was fixed.
     
  3. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    McNeely, the trainer was in on it and apparently betting the fight
    Seldon didn't try to win at all.
     
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  4. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Well cmon, anyone with two eyes could tell the buster fight was fixed. The count was clearly unfair.
     
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  5. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    I think Mills Lane did not DQ him after he first bit Holyfield? It was not until he went for the second chomp
     
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  6. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t know if he & Seldon were involved in a fix or not, but I know neither were legitimately knocked out. People still defend the Etienne KO. Staggering.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Timed out exactly the same as Mike’s count, didn’t it? Problem was, Buster got up. He even slammed his fist on the canvas and waited to get the full time so he could have beaten it anyway.

    Mike always has excuse: “I lost my virginity in Tokyo.” “It’s spinal.” “Evander butted me.” “I was old and didn’t care.” Guy was undefeated with five asterisks.
     
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  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His supporters carry that torch for him as well. There’s always an excuse.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I suspect that some of his earlier prospect fights against stiffs who knew they were there just get beaten probably dropped
     
  10. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Never heard of the counts being the same, I may be wrong on that. And I believe every Tyson defeat was real except Holyfield who blatantly cheated multiple times. Also the asterisks joke was funny.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you count Botha and Ruddock as wins over Tyson since Mike cheated?
     
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  12. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Not educated on this, not sure.
     
  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno. Etienne you'd think him being ko'd but still taking the mouthpiece out is suspect, but he's actually done that (took his mouthpiece out) in a number of fights when he's gotten clocked.

    And Bruce Seldon and the belly flops, I've seen him sprawl out like that in a few fights as well. So maybe they're both just professional, "when it's hot in the kitchen, overdo it to get out the ring" floppers.

    Fixed as in Tyson could've been dq'd in a few fights though? Absolutely.
     
  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go watch the fights. He broke just about every rule (except kicking or biting) against Ruddock.

    He wrenched Botha’s arm and tried to break it. Don’t believe me? Let’s ask Mike …

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  15. Overhand94

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    I'm a Tyson fan, but as Saintpat said, Tyson received the same count as Buster so no excuse. Buster was simply better that night.

    I don't believe the Etienne KO was fake, his leg twisted badly when he fell, maybe he could have gotten up but assessed that it was pointless.
     
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