Jose Napoles vs. Thomas Hearns

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This match-up pits the hardest punching welter of the '70's vs. the hardest punching welter of the '80's.
    I'm refraining from making a pick here...I have not seen enough Napoles footage.
    Some observations on what I seen though....
    Napoles is an interesting study. His speed does not really bedazzle you...But on closer look, you can see the economy of movement, subtle movements of head and waist, balance, and excellent coordination and timing for landing blows...and lastly power...he does punish opponents.
    Armando Muniz stated that Napoles hit harder than a young Ray Leonard. Could Napoles slip a Hearns' jab and land a brutal hooks? Yes I believe so. Does Hearns have the handspeed to catch Napoles who it appears stays within range often times for countering opportunities with his nuclear right hands? Yes, again...Also, Hearns is a very versatile boxer...
    15 rounds for welter supremacy
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    great fight. hearns on cuts
     
  3. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with suzieQ

    Also you have to rate Cuevas as a harder hitter than Napoles as far as seventies welters go.
     
  4. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take the cuts out of the equation guys...This is fantasy land...Jose has Ralph Citro in the corner. plus Eddie Alliano (the clot) and Leon Tabbs....He's not getting stopped on cuts!
     
  5. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    jose would get demolished in the same manner as pipino and roberto by devastating knockout:think
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Napoles isn't getting demo'd, I don't think, but this is a matchup where size may come into play in a big way, just as did when Napoles faced Monzon. Hearns, after all, was a huge Welter, whereas Napoles was a rather small one (a natural 135-140 pounder, in fact). That said, Hearns wasn't the economical pacer that Monzon was. He often started the fight as the front-runner and made it known so. For this reason I think he'd be a lot more susceptible to being tagged with something big early on. Napoles's only chance in this one is to fight just as he did against Monzon: pressuring slowly while using his offense in explosive bursts, hoping to catch Hearns on the chin with one of those winging, slicing hooks. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he could KO Hearns, in my opinion, but I'd suspect if Hearns were to get hurt he'd simply resort to boxing like he did Leonard, effectively shutting down the effectiveness of that plan from Napoles.

    My guess is that he'd rack up the points during the middle rounds while starting to find his range more and more often and, barring another big shot, would stop Napoles at some point in the mid to late rounds through an accumulation. It's hard not to see Napoles's soft skin being cut up by Hearns's arrsenal.
     
  7. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At WW, I see Napoles slipping Tommy's jab, and tiring him out through effective rib punching. Napoles by late TKO in that one.

    At 154, Hearns would obliterate him. Mantequilla would be out of his element here, while Tommy is peaking.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    ah yes...Jose Napoles...the "Enry Cooper of the welterweights:lol::patsch
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Napoles isn't stopping Hearns, at least not early doors.

    Hearns/Duran always ****s me up whenever I try and think this one through.
     
  10. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    look at the trouble pipino and roberto had against hearns between the 2 of them i dont think they landed one clean punch and when they got hit boy did they get hit pipino was out like a light and roberto was out even before hitting the canvas i think jose being short like these other 2 would not of been able to land a clean shot and would of been met with the same punishment:think
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That'd probably be one of his only chances to do so.
     
  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hearns by stoppage
     
  13. cobra1

    cobra1 Member Full Member

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    hearns by ko. too fast too tall and had a better all round boxing arsenal.
     
  14. bigstinkybug

    bigstinkybug Member Full Member

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    *Not many beat a prime Hearns... man, that right was possibly the most devasting weapon any fighter ever had. Prime Hearns Ko's Napoles inside of 5.
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man...this thing is old. There should be an expiration date on these.