Julio Cesar Chavez vs Pipino Cuevas.

I agree that Cuevas hit too hard for Chavez, and this is interesting, as Roberto Duran rather easily withstood all that Cuevas had en route to knocking him out i4.

 

Did Duran really just take everything Cuevas could throw at him...?

 

Cuevas with the coldcock in two.

 

Cuevas would never beat a fighter like Hearns; his bread and butter were those whipping, concussive hooks at mid range, and Tommy’s long arms and speed would never allow him to reach his target. Cuevas was a one dimensional and methodical fighter, but give him a smaller man without the guns to keep him at bay, and Pipino would have a field day.

 

Cuevas by KO

 

Chavez is too small and he doesn't have the power to give Cuevas something to think about. Cuevas rips him apart.

 

Cuevas doesn't have the chin and defense and Chavez does. Duran proved that a guy with some subtle headmovement and who knows how to work the body and head can easily KO Cuevas. Chavez perhaps takes longer than Duran, but in the end gets him.

 

Its as simple as that. Cuevas was an assasin, but he was a one dimensional assasin that would be very easy for an elite multifaceted great like Chavez to figure out.

The same Chavez who drew with Pernell Whitaker at Welter would have easily and systematically have broken down Pipino in route to a late stoppage.

Pipino had more punching power yes, but so did alot of fighters that Chavez faced and defeated.....fighters like Rosario and Mayweather.

.....anybody who picks Cuevas in this fight is severely underestimating Chavez' defensive and boxing qualities.
Because Chavez was such a good swarmer, his other great qualities are ignored by many.

Straight out, nobody at 147 lbs or below with the one dimensional skills of a fighter like Cuevas comes even close to defeating JC Chavez.
I dont care how hard he hits.....you have to bring more than just a powerpunching game to defeat a great multifaceted fighter like JC Chavez.

 

To me this is answered with a simple question:

Does Cuevas have the power to knock out Chavez? I say no.

The rest is academic. Chavez UD.

 

I agree. :good

 

Yep Chavez ruins the powerful but crude Cuevas via KO between 7-10.

 

I'll go the contrary, Chavez wouldn't have the guns to deter Cuevas, who actually had a great chin. Cuevas is far far bigger and was absolutely pole axing decent chinned fully fledged welters. Chavez's great infighting, vaunted body attack and strength at lighter weights isn't going to save him here. Chavez is also no Duran, he's going to be there for Cuevas often enough for us to find out if he can take the second biggest or perhaps even biggest hitter's power in 147 history. I say no chance.

 

I'm afraid I must respectfully disagree with the esteemed Scientist.
Having read his posts for some time with great enthusiasm I do not disagree with him lightly...

I DO agree with the majority of posters that Cuevas was one dimensional and did not have Chavez level of skill, however if you base your argument on Cuevas power alone I believe you have to go the other way.

Cuevas is one of the most powerful left hookers ever in the welterweight division. He had a long string of KO title defenses of the welterweight crown and his chin was pretty good until Hearns ruined it... After Hearns he lost nearly half his fights by KO.

Logically If Cuevas lacks the power to KO Chavez so does almost every welterweight who ever lived. I don't believe that argument will hold up because what De La Hoya and Tszyu could do it at 140 (against an admittedly faded Chavez) have no doubt in terms of power what Cuevas could do at 147.

The argument about whether Ceuvas could land it clean before he was worn down by the pressure and ferocity of Chavez attack is an entirely different matter - and in fact where I would place my money.

IF the argument is power - and only power - my advice is go with Pipino -

 

Look it, the Tszyu and ODH fights are absolutley meaningless. Chavez was very old and very shot, big time. He was totally out of shape, reflexes gone, defensive head movement gone, even his punches were slow as molasses and his flowing combos all gone. We are talking a guy who had turned pro in the early 80s. Don't use fights two decades later to judge his chin. A prime Chavez would not only have taken what Cuevas had to offer, he would have made Cuevas miss most everything he threw and would have hit Pipino a LOT.