Louis Says Marciano Hit The Hardest

Probably true, but might be because he couldn't get his head out of the way anymore, like he could against Max Baer and Galento.

 

Champs always say that some bum that they rolled hit them the hardest. It is an ego thing. They don't want the guy who knocked them out to get the credit.

As for Rocky, I do not know or care if he hit the hardest. It is not important. The fact is, he hit brutally hard, AND he hit you with a lot of punches. That is why he was great. This is what is important in assessing his power:

1) 49-0
2) 88% KO ratio (highest of any heavyweight champ)
3) 6 victories over 4 ATG fighters, and good wins against top contenders
4) Did massive damage to his opponents, including knocking out Rex Layne's teeth, breaking off bone chips in Lastarza's arms, knocking out Walcott with one punch, knocking Louis through the ropes, and (very sadly) nearly killing poor, promising Carmine Vingo.
5. Very highly spoken of by all opponents:

JERSEY JOE WALCOTT
"Joe could take you out with combinations...Marciano was a one-punch artist. He threw every punch like you throw a baseball, as hard as he could. I have to say, with all respect to Joe, Marciano hit harder."

HARRY "KID" MATHEWS
"He was a great puncher, one of the best of all-time. He just threw one punch after another, and all of them were hard."

EZZARD CHARLES:
"Rocky numbs you all over. Wherever he hits you, he hurts you; on the arms, the shoulders, the neck and the head."

JOE LOUIS
"It hurt to bump into him....He hits harder than Max Schmeling...this kid is tough enough to beat anyone."

and

"The Rock didn't know too much about the boxing book, but it wasn't a book he hit me with. It was a whole library of bone crushers."

ARCHIE MOORE
(When asked which punch hurt him most)
"Man they all hurt."

and

"After a fight with Marciano, it felt like you had been beat all over the upper body with a blackjack or hit with rocks....He could hurt you, sure, but it was the quantity of his punches. He just had more stamina than anyone else in those days. He was like a bull with gloves."

ROLAND LASTARZA
"I would throw a hard punch, then he would throw a hard punch. The difference was that Rocky would throw 10 more. He just never stopped throwing punches."

PHIL MUSCATO
"Dan, I can still feel his punches. He kept punching me in the upper arms until I could no longer hold them up to defend or throw punches".

BERNIE REYNOLDS
"He had amazing strength. Any time Marciano hit you, he could hurt you. He didn't do much flicking; every punch was a knockout punch."

And, the opinion of JACK DEMPSEY:
"What everyone forgets is that Marciano can punch harder with a right hand than any modern-day heavyweight. In his first fight with Walcott, Rocky needed only one blow to win the title. The power in his right scrambled Jersey Joe's brains at Chicago."
"I've scored my share of knockouts along the way, but more often than not my opponents got up after being knocked down and had to be knocked down repeatedly. The same is true of Joe Louis. But Marciano needs only one solid smash and it's all over.
That's why I say Rocky Marciano is the hardest-hitting heavyweight champion I have seen."

 

Good stuff Mac.

 

Moore said Sheppard,Marshall and Durelle hit him harder than Marciano,and he said it in print several times.
There is no quote from him where he says Marciano hit him the hardest. This does not fit in with LachBusters scheme of things so he dismisses it even though he cannot produce a quote that confirms the title of this thread,and he won't ,because such a quote does not exist!
I was unaware of Charles' quote but will look it up.

 

Moore never claimed Marciano got an 8 count in their fight.What he claimed is that the referee began a mandatory 8 count which it completely true,but when realising that the standing 8 count was waveed for title fights he quickly stopped. Not only is this verifiable on film Peter Wilson discussed it with Marciano in an interview after the fight.Marciano himself under the impression he was entitled to such a count moved towards the ropes on arising to receive it.This too is confirmed in Wilson's book with a direct quote from Marciano.

48 hours after the fight, which Wilson
saw from ringside, he interviewed Marciano on radio for Sports Report.

"You may remember that I wrote that when he was knocked down,"for a strange second he seems to forget he is in a fight".
I asked Marciano about this,for he seemed to almost walk over to the ropes as though he thought he could take a breather."
He said;"Ah but you forget that in America there is a compulsory 8 count,and even if you get up the referee still continues the countup to 8 before letting the fight continue."
I said ."Yes I know all bout that,but you don't have that in world title fights".
Marciano said ."No you don't understand.We have the compulsory count"... And then he paused and he said ;"Gosh of course you're right.It doesn't work in world championship fights".
N B Marshal had Charles down 8 times in 8 rounds,Marciano ever do that?

Lloyd Marshall, 165, scored a TKO over Ezzard Charles, 168, in the 8th round of a scheduled 10 round bout here tonight before 10,537 fans. Marshall forced Charles throughout the fight, although he was outweighed by three pounds. Charles hit the canvas seven times during the eight rounds. He was down in the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 8th, the longest a count of nine in the 7th. In the 7th and 8th he hit the canvas twice." -United Press

Some one is playing fast and loose with the facts here,and it isn't me!

 

In a taped interview with Peter Heller in Moore's house in San Diego October 1970 Moore never said Marciano got an 8 count what he said was ,and I quote."he grabbed Marciano's gloves and gave him a count standing up."This is true he began it but quickly realising it did not apply in title fights stopped. You aren't winning anything here are you?lol

The title of your thread should be changed to;
Louis says, [according to Marciano,]that Marciano hit him the hardest.lol!
As it is, it's dishonest click bait.

ps Moore fought Maxim 3 times and never stopped him. Sheppard kod Maxim in 1 round. He was the only man to ever ko Maxim.

 

Moore's opinion takes precedent over yours for me. Marciano wasn't in his prime for Moore? Lol He was 32! Moore was 38/40!GTF!

 

although Louis wasnt hit by a man with a potbelly, chubby mwoobs and fat arms before which make his healthy 200lb weight up to 250lbs.

Presumably becos such a man would never move into contention if he was in such terrible shape.

 

No fighter is prime at 40.
Moore said he had no legs for the Marciano fight again in a taped interview.I expect you've"debunked"that though.lol
Moore had 176 worth of fights mileage on his clock when he faced Rocky.
Charles 97.
Tyson had prison years out of the game. Ali accelerated Frazier's decline.
At the press conference for his retirement Marciano ws asked if he thought he still had good fights in him ,he was surprised by the question and said " of course , at least two."
But what would he know?

 

You're not going to get an argument against his power from me .. I just think Louis was a bigger puncher based on the size of the guys we see him demolishing. We never saw the same from Rocky because he did not have the chance to fight that type of guy .. look at Simon, the Baer brothers, a two forty pound Galento sail thru the air.. serious .

 

I've forgotten more about Marciano than you have yet learned.
At that stage of his career Marciano was forced to do nothing by Weill
I'm well aware of his issues with Weill and his back problem which by the way was NOT a factor in training for the Moore fight.
Marciano did not retire to spend time with his family,his Wife was on the booze and had put on a lot of weight and he was rarely home when he did retire.He was always travelling looking for action.
Marciano actually began negotiations with Sam Silverman and Jim Norris for further fights if he could get under the table payments that would exclude Weill.You didn't know that did you?

You've made a stupid thread with a dishonest title,been called on it and failed to back it up.
You talk out of your arse
That's the bottom line,sorry you're blown!
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