Ricky Womack

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    I heard so many damn times about this guy and that he was amazing talent!
    What happened to him?
    Just give me some info about him and was he really that good amateur?
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Prison for armed robbery. Got out about 37-38 yrs old I think. Didnt look good anymore and killed himself I believe. He was an outstanding amateur. Beat Holy a few times.
     
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  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Evander beat him to make the Olympics team Bob?

    Apparently Womack losing was a big deal in amateur circles. He was a real talent by most accounts (I heard Tyson talking him up on Hotboxing) He was reputedly an intimidating guy but a guy like Holyfield was literally intimidated by no one.
     
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    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    If memory serves me correct Holy did beat him. He did lose the previous bout though.
    Yea he was known as super intimidating and just a downright mean individual. One who didnt hang out with the other fighters during these tournaments either.
     
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  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Definitely an outstanding amateur who had a golden ticket contract as a pro. But he was also the victim of a horrible childhood and, despite all of his successes and the (often temporary) security they bring, couldn't get it together to be a responsible adult and a professional. The damage was too deep.

    I suppose another way of looking at it would be seeing him as a piece of crap who, despite all of the things boxing and Emmanuel Steward set him up with, would steal from his teammates and just wanted more for himself with no thought of others. If I was making a hundred grand a year and living rent-free, I damn sure wouldn't say to myself, "That's not enough. I'm going to rob and steal because I want more."
     
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    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Womack was an awesome talent. His amateur fights with Holyfield are some of the best you will see. He made Holyfield cry in the locker room during one amateur tournament, Holyfield says it was because Womack stepped on his toe LOL. Womack intimidated EVERYBODY.
     
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  9. Saintpat

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    He ‘intimidated’ Holyfield so badly that Evander beat his ass that night in the ring.

    https://worldboxingforums.com/index.php?/topic/1038-ricky-womack/

    Nobody intimidated Evander.
     
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  10. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    A guy can be intimidated and still win a fight. The story of Holyfield being made to cry has been around forever and plenty of people who were there have backed it up over the years. But you go on believing Holyfieldsbull**** story that he cried not because Womack punked him out but because he got his toe stepped on LOL.
     
  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, Mr. Master Researcher — I have the story linked with it as told through Phil Berger, an award-winning journalist and noted boxing author. He went to the source.

    Evander: “I was so MAD, there were tears in my eyes.”

    Find me one account of someone else who was there who says he was blubbering in the corner afraid of Ricky Womack. He wasn’t. He was ANGRY at him.

    I’ve cited my source. You go find yours — ‘the story has been around forever’ doesn’t make the idea that he was intimidated (your interpretation) true. You’re the one believing bull**** unless you can show someone who knows what Evander was feeling better than Evander did (which obviously you can’t).

    This is what happens when someone falls in love with their self-proclaimed reputation. You claim to be a Master Researcher — on one thread you even told me that no author had ever researched anything as well as you did your self-published book (and then you backed down when I pointed out, just to name one, the Pulitzer Prize-winning book on the Manhattan Project where the researcher actually found unpublished and previously unknown hand-written notes by Oppenheimer and other involved physicists — REAL research) — yet it’s clear from even something as simple as this that you lack any ability whatsoever to assess what you research and understand context or what actually happened.

    You see ‘Evander cried’ and you — no one else, YOU — deduct that he was intimidated. Yet the story is much different when you include the context that he had tears of anger, not fear nor intimidation, and that he then WON THE FIGHT. Not the actions of a fraidy-cat cowering in a locker room blubbering for his mama like you want to paint it.

    Which begs one to wonder what kind of twisting and backflips you did with your Greb research to make it fit a narrative that you wanted it to fit. You are, quite simply, unreliable in that you hide behind ‘I did muh research and I’m the best researcher ever,’ yet in this case it took me 30 seconds in a google search to find a credible account that makes it 100 percent clear that your assessment of Evander being intimidated has no basis.

    I presented you an objective account by a New York Times award-winning journalist that went through the New York Times’ editorial process and was published. It has nothing that paints Evander as intimidated. “The story has been around for years” is your defense.

    Sorry to expose you, but as you know, it’s not the first time.
     
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    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he didnt go to jail he most likely would have been a force at 175 lbs or 190 lbs in the late 80s. He and Holyfield probably would have fought in the pros.

    He beat the competent Uriah Grant in one of his early fights.
     
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