Tank Vs Garcia made 2x more money than Crawford Vs Spence Jr.

I understand boxing better than you? There is a reason Tank now has career earning of close to $100 Million and why he has been packing out arenas all over the country. Yes Garcia contributed to the PPV sales as well as he was the right dance partner. Tank gives punters the Mike Tyson feeling because you know knockouts are coming. Well over 1 Million PPV buys shows his trajectory. You may not like it but figures don’t lie.

 

CST80 does not understand the game or business of boxing like I do. Tank has been built up properly which is why he is where he is now. Mayweather Promotions, Showtime and PBC know what they are doing. Very soon Garcia will leave Golden Boy Promotions. Crawford has just earned life changing money in his first fight with PBC after being shafted financially by Top Rank and ESPN for years.

 

no , you clearly don’t understand how boxing works in US. Most PPV’s Tank has ever sold before Garcia fight was 250 000 , and he isn’t going to break 500 000 unless he is fighting Mexican .
Garcia is a draw , Tank is not.

 

Breaking news: hamburgers sell better than blue cheese and red wine.

It's actually a fantastic marketing success for Crawford-Spence. To create a narrative on such thin ice, and yet pull it off with the Manny-Mayweather comparisons.

 

He made $18 million dollars from his time in Top Rank from 2018 onward (where he signed a $3 million minimum guarantee per fight) and $10 million from his BLK Prime fight, for a minimum of $28 million. In that same time frame, Spence fought Mikey Garcia ($8 million), Shawn Porter ($2 million), Danny Garcia ($8 million guaranteed and up to $10 million if PPV sales were up high enough, and even though they weren't let's just give it to him) and Ugas ($1.5 million). Added up ($19.5 to $21.5 million) he barely made more than Crawford in the same time frame and that's assuming the PPV percentages from the non-Garcia PPV that we don't know pulled him over the finish line. I absolutely have to ask...what in God's name are you talking about?

Source, for all those numbers is Forbes, btw, so they are far more accurate than anything you have.

 

You clearly don’t understand. Tank’s PPV view numbers were already very good in these times backed up by selling out arenas all over the USA e.g. California, Georgia, New York, Maryland, Las Vegas etc. When he fought Garcia who has never appeared on PPV before the numbers went on more because the casuals thought he had a chance. Yes the Dad’s of the Garcia teenage girl fans nagged them to buy the PPV as well as Tank urban following came out on mass. you also have the cross over fans who have witnessed Tank knocking mother****ers out coming to buy and play. You may not realise it but over the last few years Tank and Erroll Spence Jr have been outselling even Canelo and the fight with Garcia proved it. I will educate you further because you need it. There is a reason Floyd thinks Teofimo Lopez should be Tank’s ideal next opponent because it will generate more PPV’s than Haney or Shakur because you appeal to wider demographics. If you need more business lessons about boxing I am happy to educate you.

 

Oh, also big lol at Tank Davis having a career earning of $100 million. Lmao, even. PBC would have gone bankrupt if they were paying him even a third of that based on his PPV sales pre-Ryan Garcia.

 

A quick Google suggests his net worth is closer to 10x less than that.

 

You are not counting what EJ made on the PPV back end, you are just quoting the low guarantees., against Mikey Garcia alone he made at least $20 Million. Forbes don’t get the PPV figures only quote the minimum lower guarantees. Bud also did not get $10 Million for the Avenesyan fight which BLK Prime lost money on. Crawford now knows what it’s like to earn mega millions and I bet you he stays with PBC. There is a reason we are number 1 in boxing. TopRank Chief the Bobfather himself Bob Arum said they were losing money on Bud because he could not sell flies. Truth is they did not know how to promote him. Part of the PBC strategy was to ensure Bud got a great experience in his first promotion with them. You notice he wants to fight next PBC fighters like Spence rematch and Jermell Charlo.

 

You do know in the Garcia fight alone he cleaned house with betweeen $40-$50 Million conservatively.

 

I in fact said as much, but where in the world are you getting the 20 million figure from because it exists literally nowhere. Please stop making things up.

Yes he did get the full $10 million for the Avensesyan fight. It was a guarantee obligation they had to pay him, not a choice or PPV back end. Whether BLK Prime lost money or not is their business, not Crawford's. There would have been legal action if they did not pay him the full money. Please stop making things up.

I bet you he in fact remains a free agent. He may do business with PBC because he wants to beat the unholy **** out of Mell Charlo, but that will be as a free agent, not under PBC contract. Why would he work with someone who actively tried to ruin his career?

If "you" were number one in boxing "you" would still be on Fox and not slumming it on Showtime Sports that Paramount is always considering giving the boot. Please stop making things up.

No major disagreements here, but its hard to sell fights when the side that has most of the marketable welterweights blackballs you until one of them (Porter) told you he is retiring.

He is contractually obligated to fight Spence next if Spence wants it. There is no "want to" in it. As for Charlo, he simply doesn't like him and wants to punch him in the face; that he holds most of the 154 belts only enforces that because Crawford wants to move up one more weight class before calling it a career. This would be true if Charlo was with Golden Boy, Top Rank, Matchroom, or Tekken Promotions in Japan. PBC is a coincidence, not a selling point. Every victory Crawford has over them honestly takes a dump on PBC given the way they've insulted the man and tried to whitewash him out of existence. For the final time, please stop making things up.

 

Rather than respond individually to all your silly stupid points. I will set you a little test. work out the live gate for AT& T stadium fight against Mikey Garcia that is 49,000 people attended by the way plus the 360,000 PPV buys with Erroll having the Lions share ( conservatively 60% though he is entitled to more) then do the Maths Pendejo. You are way to easy to deal with.

 

Oh Olu, sweetie, I don't NEED to do math to prove you wrong. Let's use existing numbers and basic logic!

You claim 60% would be a conservative number for the drip (tickets you didn't give prices of, PPV buys you didn't provide prices on: 75-85 bucks, btw, you're welcome because I know you didn't know). That's interesting considering how much bigger a star Mikey was both compared to at-the-time Spence and, more importantly, Ugas ever. You see, with Ugas, who no one gave a chance and has the audience appeal of dry paint, Spence got a 'mere' 50% of the drip. So you're telling me that Ugas has more pull than Mikey Garcia with a fanbase that was responsible for Spence's biggest PPV numbers until Crawford? Oh wait, it gets better! Spence's maximum drip for the DANNY Garcia fight was $2 million, and the six-toed freak also has a large fanbase, but was the B-side vs. Errol.

So you are telling me against at-the-time bigger name Mikey Garcia, Spence commanded an amount of drip that dwarfed what Mikey would get, what PBC would get, and what Fox would recoup? Despite getting far less than that in later fights where he was the bigger name, and in one case WAY bigger? You want to use your little brainy parts and think as to why that might not even be remotely what happened, Olu? Or do you have any other made-up numbers you want to throw at me?

Please, stop making things up.

 

I don’t make things up you do. I mentioned the Mikey fight. You are such a ****ing liar. I know you don’t like Spence and PBC but try to be honest. Spence was the A side and got more. Next you will claim Bud got parity with Spence for their fight.

 

You make things up all the time and just did. All you need to do to shut me up is point to me where my numbers are wrong. You can't because they are backed up by Forbes. You cited that he got at least 60% of the drip vs Mikey Garcia. That is an impressive bit of finagling given that he was only able to get 50% against non-star Ugas, and his drip was maxed out at $2 million vs Danny Garcia (I suspect, though I have no idea because I wasn't in the negotiating room, this was due to his high guarantee). Either his team got increasingly dumber at negotiating drip percentages, or you made that number up; either out of your own backside or based on what a friend-of-a-friend told you. Either way, unreliable and completely illogical.

But tell me more about how BLK Prime didn't pay Crawford the fully guaranteed $10 million that they absolutely had to because it was a contractual guarantee. I could use more laughs.

Please, stop making things up.