The Big Myth About Tank Davis

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Last night, once again, Tank Davis was bailed out by his power in a fight he was losing. This happens time and again. I read that quite a few times last night and after many of Tank's other fights. I've said it myself. The reality is that all of us who say that are wrong.

    We act like Davis has no boxing skills and that he might as well be a mini Deontay Wilder. That is not the case. He cuts the ring off well, he throws a variety of good combinations and he does a good job of minimizing his height and reach disadvantages in fights where that is a factor.

    Most importantly is the only thing that matters related to his power bailing him out of losing situations is the fact that he is almost never in losing situations. In fact, at the time Tank stopped his foe he has been leading on the scorecards against every single opponent since he became a world champion in 2017.

    It's time for me and, perhaps you, to start appreciating Tank's skill.
     
  2. Smoochie

    Smoochie greb stan Full Member

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    The problem, as other posters more veteran than me commented countless times, isn't that he lacks skills, but that he doesn't test himself enough and valorize himself to fight higher competion. He could have been a future HoF by now.
    Anyone who considers him sum gatekeeper/can-crusher in the same vein of Briggs or Wilder is clearly devoid of proper judgement.
    He is a very capable boxer who could turn the tables everytime the storm approaches him.
     
  3. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big facts ,
    been saying tank is special
    Since Pedraza but people love to discredit the lil guy.

    Frank white & Ryan G were step up fights for him
    So he has finally stepped it up in comp.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I rate him, despite his poor resume. The skill at least to me is obvious. He's wasted his career for the most part so far. He is still only 29, so has time to change that, but I have no faith in him or his handlers looking to push him harder.
     
  5. Ullswater

    Ullswater New Member banned Full Member

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    We act like? Who are you speaking for? I don't think people are saying Davis has no skills and he's another Wilder.. so what u on about? Davis is a good fighter.. but I'm not going to jump all over this win like it's something special .. nobody outside of the PBC has even heard of Frank Martin .. the PBC types loves these little stay at home supposed 'p4p' children weight Fighters like Davis to make them feel better about themselves for losing in every other division that consists of actual grown ups.. the facts are that Davis is a privileged & protected commodity who over 11 years has put together quite a thin career in comparison to many of his forebears .. ye hes a good little fighter, but i dont see anything remarkable about his career .. I think it's more the fact that his fanboys don't hold him to the High standards they seem to hold everybody else to
     
  6. boxingexpert733

    boxingexpert733 Member Full Member

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    No ones denying he has skills. We just want people to stop acting like he’s invincible until he steps up the competition
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He was leading on the scorecards against everyone of his opponents because PBC consistently have some of the most blatantly corrupt judges scoring their fights in the sport. Pitbull Cruz, the one man he couldn't stop, he needed the judges to bail him out with a gift. If this sport were fair, he'd have been down on the scorecards in several fights at the time his power bailed him out. GGG and Inoue have had a few competitive fights, and they get maliciously attacked and called frauds who are bailed out by their power. But neither of them have ever been dominated for long stretches like Tank has. Until he works out a way to consistently win every round and then stop his opponents, he deserves every ounce of the criticism he receives. While maybe not Deontay Wilder-esque pisspoor in terms of skillset, he's certainly Jermell Charlo-esque.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Good post Fogger.
     
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  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    His level of opposition is still not the best.

    There's nothing inherently wrong in boxing cautiously for a few rounds to size up an opponent before going through the gears and picking them apart and/or stopping them - you don't have to be gungo-ho from the word go in order to be great, let alone good.

    The problem with Tank is that he looks skilled against mediocre opponents - but we've seen enough times before that fighters can look a million bucks against gatekeepers but then step up and look much more mediocre.

    Since you mentioned him, Wilder is a good example of this in one sense - against journeymen and the occasional gatekeeper he looked like a legit champion... But against contenders he just can't compete, can't adapt and looks like he shouldn't have been put in the same ring as them.

    The parallel between Tank and Wilder has nothing to do with skill or ring IQ - it's all about managing image to give the impression that they're serious fighters without having to really prove it.
    Tanks not quite as bad in that regard... And Deontay blew that image with a cherrypick that went wrong - will Davis end up doing the same (maybe with Loma?) or will he prove himself to be the real deal? (Or will he just never step up and hope that he gets the credit without the proof?)
     
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  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think the Wilder comparisons are good at all I think Davis has a lot more skill especially anticipating punches and countering he also doesn't wing Wild punches his punches are Compact and accurate and he doesn't waste punches

    Sure he lost a couple of rounds It was obvious Martin wasn't going to be able to keep it up all night And Davis was starting to apply more pressure was starting to get to him more Losing rounds Is A great strategy If it takes losing a few rounds early to figure out an opponent Then it works

    There was never a point in the fight where I felt like Davis looked uncomfortable or confused or in danger he's very composed.

    I'm not trying to overrate him I think lately I've underrated him
     
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  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Tank faces crappy oposition, but he passes the eye-test with an excellent score, that's undeniable.

    Yesterday he started slow, that's all, but he was in total control of the fight at basically any moment.

    Is the eye-test enough? clearly not. Is the eye-test important? I think so
     
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  12. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    You are being disingenuous Tank was not losing the fight he was ahead on all three judges scorecards
     
  13. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tank is great, but there is no elite level talent at 135/140 thats gonna give tank a 50/50 fight. he blows out shakur, lomachenko, or anyone in those weight classes. it wouldve been nice if crawford was still at 140 to give tank a good fight. unless tank can somehow move to 147, but i dont think he wil be at his best at that weight.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Okay, but that's not really what the Wilder comparisons are about.

    It's about the basic recipe for building reputation - fight lower level opposition, duck the better fighters and claim they're ducking you... Insist you're the best loudly... Oh, and have an army of fans who get furious whenever anyone dares mention mediocre resumes.

    There is a parallel there.

    But there's obviously no parallel in terms of technique, and quite possibly no parallel in terms of potential to step up - but then, if that were the case, why isn't he?
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah.... so was Adames against Gausha and wide, and no one on the RBR scored the fight in his favor. PBC's scorecards are notoriously biased beyond belief, every bit as bad as Top Rank's, so him being ahead on the scorecards ultimately means **** all.
     
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