Top 30 Middleweights of all time

Interesting list mate. Personally i would have Monzon sneaking above Hagler and Valdez would be a lot lower. Fullmer, Conn and Overlin might be close too.

 

Great effort Suze, I'd pop RJJ up at least a few places if you're weighing heavily on H2H

 

I always like your lists. Making lists is hard work.
Depending on how much stock you place on h2h over accomplishments, I feel that a 25 year old Sam Langford would handle a lot of those guys.

 

Nice work Suzie Q.

I am just getting back into boxing and top 30 would be hard for me to do. I will give doing top 10 a shot

1. Hagler
2. Monzon
3. Greb
4. SRR
5. Fitz
6. Walker
7. Hopkins
8. Burley
9. Ketchel
10. Tiger

I did not realise how good Steele was. Based on your high ranking, i will try and find more of him.

Greg probably has the greatest resume ever but i find it hard to rank him #1 without proper footage of him fighting.

 

Improved.

I see you moved Ketchel down.

Too high for my liking is Tiger, Steele, Williams, Gibbons, and Valdez.

Too low for my liking is Roy Jones ( Way too low ) , Charles, Cerdan and Toney.

 

For me the tail end of Monzon puts Marvin to the sword. He comfortably best the 2nd best middle whilst Marvin lost to a welter albeit a great one.

Valdes is a good fighter but 160 is rank with talent and resume.

 

Jones jr beat Hopkins at middle, and Toney at super middle by wide margins.

 

Papp at 5? His work was done as an amateur he didn't do anything noteworthy as a pro as he was an older man by then. I'm a huge Papp fan but this is ridiculous.
McClellan at 11 Graziano at 17 and your gonna lecture me on Barney Ross P4P standings.
You've lost your mind man

 

Who he beat as a pro to warrant no 5 greatest professional MW of all time???

 

And a win over pre prime Hopkins who hadn't beaten a top 10 fighter isn't huge for the resume side either. He has to be almost solely rated on H2H and even tho he rates huge in this regard resume still holds him way back in a blend obviously.