Watched Leonard/Duran 2 last night.

I'm seeing some

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SON of MAG:yep

Back in the day straight after New Orleans plenty of the press castigated Leonards performance for the required lack of intestinal fortitude befitting of a challenger for a then prestigous world title as it threw up more questions than answers about Leonards heart that he had to resort to school playground antics in a fight where he had every physical advantage over his challenger.

He's fighting a smaller man of near on 30years & 72 fights who back in the day should have been retired & that had become the 1st in 40+ years to successfully navigate the path from 135 to 147 & succed where only armstrong had gone before him so you'd expect Leonard to dominate but he did'nt & it was 40+ years for a very good reason as what with only 2 governing bodies back then each division was stacked with the best of the time unlike today where every contender is now a cabbage patch titleist.

If Leonard was such a messiah he would & should have handled Duran with ease but he failed on both occasions for 2 different reasons & the 1st was that he was simply beaten by the better man in Montreal when on a level playing field he was out boxed out-thought & out-fought & mentally dominated by what was then a man who was a boxing geriatric & 2nd he then threw in a MEGA $9MILLION offer to get duran into the ring in November knowing full well that Duran was bloated & refused the january date with the threat of going after Cuevas if it was'nt November & Don King took the $$$$ that why the press & media still questioned his credentials & quite rightly so.

His so called victory was not acclaimed by the press or media in the slightest & It never had much impact on Duran as everyone knew he was an inigma & capable of anything. Thats why Leonard was viewed as the underdog against Hearns as Leonard was seen as lacking what it took when the going got tough & Duran truamatised Leonard by the whipping he handed out to him in Montreal & thats obviously left you as truamatised as Leonard is still to this day.

Duran went onto greater feats & glories with no contraversy surrounding him unlike Leonard whose insecurties manifested themselves in spades when Kevin Howard stuck him on his arse & leonard QUIT BOXING AGAIN!! he could'nt flee the scene of the crime fast enough.

He would'nt rematch Hearns/Benitez or Duran & lets not mention Hagler who Leonard kept on saying he wanted to fight then fled when forced to step up with a date for said fistic execution. But cherry picked journyman Howard exposed Leonard to the world in fine style.

Real champions get back on the horse they dont quit the sport & wait till the horse has 4 busted legs & then try & remount:deal

You crow over New Orleans, well that makes Duran all the more greater than Leonard as Montreal showed the world who was indeed the better man & still does to those who understand a bit about the game.

Leonard is just Smoke & Mirrors show for the nieve & the gullible who seek a protective light on a dark night:yep

 

Pretty much.

I'm getting a real kick out of people trying to discredit Leonard's resume though. Out of all of them...

 

You're in a very, very, very, very small minority. :good

 

It would have been Leonard in the first fight as well if he had fought similarly to the no mas fight.

 

Leonard with the right strategy beats Duran 100 out of 100 times. The first fight was the wrong strategy, the second fight he boxed smart, used moves and angles to neutralise and control Duran. The first fight he was stupid and thought he could walk down the puncher, Angelo thought the same, I think they probably thought Duran was too small and past it, bad move on their part

 

well the brawl in montreal is probably one of the fights i watched most.. and no matter what other judges you would have put there as long as they weren't blind or given money no way anyone could have given that fight to leonard

 

What's so hard to understand. As prime ww's these guys fought twice going 1-1.

Both fought the fights they wanted to in both fights. If ray was too green in the first he wasn't a worthy champ; if roberto wasn't ready he shouldn't have taken the fight. 6 months is ample time for anyone.

Let's just be thankful these greats had 2 fights. Because in the exact same era we had pryor who didn't get to fight any of them. Today we have pac and floyd doing their best to not fight each other.

The truth is easy to digest. In fight 1, the better man was duran. In fight 2, the better man was ray.

 

I'm picking up what your putting down.

IMO Ray would have beaten Duran in the first fight with the tactics from the second tho i accept it can be debated.

The thing was tho, he did not have the maturity or experience to pull it off. Fair win to Duran.

Ray had it sorted in the return whilst Duran lacked the edge.

Duran was a better Duran in the first fight. Ray was a better Ray in the second. 1-1 is fair.

The Duran loss was the best thing that could have happened for Leonard.

 

Some people seem to forget...........Duran ain't Superman.

 

and that's that, end of story, not coming back to this thread now, you have closed it, this got boring about 3 years ago,

 

Nobody gives a **** anymore about this.At last have the self-respect to post this kind of recycled dross in the more relevant stickied "what fights have i watched today" thread.

 

:rofl

 

You sound like the kid whose big brother Spike got his head kicked in and for the next three weeks he's hopping around at his heels saying "I betcha he couldn't do that again! Betcha he couldn't do that again!"

And what does Spike say? He says "shut the f--- up."

Kind of like Leonard -who slights you by recognizing that Duran is indeed one of the greatest fighters who ever lived (and said so in 1983)

And guess what, sport, Duran didn't have to beat Leonard again. He beat Leonard when it mattered most (like Frazier and Ali) and you can spend all your days on ESB Classic trying to erase, minimize, overlook, and criticize that singular victory, but you'll remain nothing but a lonely voice crying out in the wilderness.

 

3 years ago? FIVE years ago!