What's your definition of KO & TKO??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Da Voice, Aug 21, 2011.


  1. Da Voice

    Da Voice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naturally, it's definitely KO if a bloke is counted out while sprawled out on the canvas.
    However, if:-
    1. Bloke gets on his feet, but ref waves it off before completing the count, because in his opinion the bloke is in no condition to continue - Is that a TKO or KO?
    2. As above, but ref waves it off after completing the count.
    3. Bloke is knocked down 3 times in any one round

    Oops! Forgot most frequent occurrence:-
    4. Bloke is downed & ref waives it off without applying the count
     
  2. CapsLock

    CapsLock Active Member Full Member

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    *3 knockdown rule is tko

    *bloke gets up at 3 refs decides to wave it off before mandatory 8 is tko

    *bloke gets up, ref gives him mandatory 8 and then waves off is tko

    a ko is simply if refs counts to 10 and blokes still on canvas or if bloke is down ref doesn't complete count and waves off becoz it was such a bad knockout it's better to stop count And quickly attend to blokes wellbeing.

    There's nothing hard about the above...why is this debated so much?
     
  3. Ben K

    Ben K Member Full Member

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    If a guy is knocked out and ref dosnt even count, it should be a KO. It isnt but it should be.
    A TKO should be from 3 knockdowns or Ref stopping fight as fighter has taken to much punishment. All else should be KO in my opinion.

    In my opinion if a fighter is knocked down and cant beat the count or fight is waved off as Ref thinks he isnt fit to continue it Should be a KO
     
  4. Da Voice

    Da Voice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because rules in Oz, from State to Sate differ, as do in other countries...not to mention title governing bodies.
    e.g. In Queensland (ANBF Rules) there's nothing technical about 3 knockdown stoppage.Therefore, it's KO as is in South Australia
     
  5. CapsLock

    CapsLock Active Member Full Member

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    well thats silly then....they need a unified national body...one set of rules, one prez, one secretary and one committee

    and that anton sevsek guy for prez
     
  6. Da Voice

    Da Voice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO, stoppage on towel, injury (not attributed to punch) & ref's intervention due to unanswered punches = TKO. The rest is KO.
    Stoppage due to cut, whether intentional, accidental or legal is a different ball game
     
  7. CapsLock

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    What do u mean nothing technical about it? You basically loae on s technicality. There's no way 3 knockdowns should called a ko. Its about as tko as they come

    What a load of horse****.
     
  8. The Spider

    The Spider Guest

    The above is simple and makes good sense. How it can vary state to state is beyond me. But then again the standing 8 count and 3 knockdown rule seems to vary according to where you fight too.
     
  9. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    if a ref waves it off without a count thats a ko.
    if the ref waves it off after a count or appears to be erring on the side of caution thats a tko.
     
  10. The Spider

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    I don't strongly disagree with you. But what about the case where the guy goes down. The ref calls it, and he gets up again, all in the space of a lot less than 10 seconds. Why should that be a KO? He never got the full count, and in some cases gets up looking like he can continue.
     
  11. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    zab judah style?
    id still call that a ko. what your describing really sounds like a dud call by the ref but if the ref stops it out of fear that the guy has suffered a concussive blow then its gotta be recorded as a ko.
    like i said if the ref actually stops the contest after assessing a fighter and weighing up the chances that he is going to be able to effectively defend himself? then thats a tko in my eyes.
     
  12. The Spider

    The Spider Guest

    I don't think we are far from being on the same page here. Judah is an example but probably not a good one because though he got up he was chicken walking out of control and unable in most people's opinions to continue.
     
  13. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ko is down for a 10 count or knocked unconcious

    TKO is any other stoppage

    thats my interpritation
     
  14. Da Voice

    Da Voice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's the point counting to full 10, whether sprawled on canvas or standing, when the bloke is in no condition to continue??
     
  15. CapsLock

    CapsLock Active Member Full Member

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    Yep. U r the winner.

    Now lock thread before others come along and confuse things