Naturally, it's definitely KO if a bloke is counted out while sprawled out on the canvas. However, if:- 1. Bloke gets on his feet, but ref waves it off before completing the count, because in his opinion the bloke is in no condition to continue - Is that a TKO or KO? 2. As above, but ref waves it off after completing the count. 3. Bloke is knocked down 3 times in any one round Oops! Forgot most frequent occurrence:- 4. Bloke is downed & ref waives it off without applying the count
*3 knockdown rule is tko *bloke gets up at 3 refs decides to wave it off before mandatory 8 is tko *bloke gets up, ref gives him mandatory 8 and then waves off is tko a ko is simply if refs counts to 10 and blokes still on canvas or if bloke is down ref doesn't complete count and waves off becoz it was such a bad knockout it's better to stop count And quickly attend to blokes wellbeing. There's nothing hard about the above...why is this debated so much?
If a guy is knocked out and ref dosnt even count, it should be a KO. It isnt but it should be. A TKO should be from 3 knockdowns or Ref stopping fight as fighter has taken to much punishment. All else should be KO in my opinion. In my opinion if a fighter is knocked down and cant beat the count or fight is waved off as Ref thinks he isnt fit to continue it Should be a KO
Because rules in Oz, from State to Sate differ, as do in other countries...not to mention title governing bodies. e.g. In Queensland (ANBF Rules) there's nothing technical about 3 knockdown stoppage.Therefore, it's KO as is in South Australia
well thats silly then....they need a unified national body...one set of rules, one prez, one secretary and one committee and that anton sevsek guy for prez
IMO, stoppage on towel, injury (not attributed to punch) & ref's intervention due to unanswered punches = TKO. The rest is KO. Stoppage due to cut, whether intentional, accidental or legal is a different ball game
What do u mean nothing technical about it? You basically loae on s technicality. There's no way 3 knockdowns should called a ko. Its about as tko as they come What a load of horse****.
The above is simple and makes good sense. How it can vary state to state is beyond me. But then again the standing 8 count and 3 knockdown rule seems to vary according to where you fight too.
if a ref waves it off without a count thats a ko. if the ref waves it off after a count or appears to be erring on the side of caution thats a tko.
I don't strongly disagree with you. But what about the case where the guy goes down. The ref calls it, and he gets up again, all in the space of a lot less than 10 seconds. Why should that be a KO? He never got the full count, and in some cases gets up looking like he can continue.
zab judah style? id still call that a ko. what your describing really sounds like a dud call by the ref but if the ref stops it out of fear that the guy has suffered a concussive blow then its gotta be recorded as a ko. like i said if the ref actually stops the contest after assessing a fighter and weighing up the chances that he is going to be able to effectively defend himself? then thats a tko in my eyes.
I don't think we are far from being on the same page here. Judah is an example but probably not a good one because though he got up he was chicken walking out of control and unable in most people's opinions to continue.
What's the point counting to full 10, whether sprawled on canvas or standing, when the bloke is in no condition to continue??